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[Shin Megami Tensei V]Scalpers Set Their Sights On The Shin Megami Tensei V Premium Edition

  johnvboy

  1johnvboy13 hours ago

  Just waiting for all the inevitable comments about scalpers being the scum of the earth etc etc…

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  NinChocolate

  2NinChocolate13 hours ago

  Does the blue lady have a beard?

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  DeclanS98

  3DeclanS9813 hours ago

  @johnvboy Not wrong tbf

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  Friendly

  4Friendly13 hours ago

  Can’t wait for physical stores to reopen completely and have like 50% of their stock only available to in-store customers.

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  Friendly

  5Friendly13 hours ago

  @NinChocolate the protagonist is actually a dude.

  https://megamitensei.fandom.com/wiki/Protagonist_(Shin_Megami_Tensei_V)

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  GrailUK

  6GrailUK13 hours ago

  How do you stop scalping whilst there is no law against it? By asking producers to make twice as much as needed and go broke? Modern capitalism really needs some sense of fair play somehow. Scalpers are pretty much breaking a non existant RRP law (which there really ought to be. – in fact, I’m pretty sure there was one before the Conservatives got rid of it years ago…))

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  S20TEW

  7S20TEW13 hours ago

  @NinChocolate blue haired lady is a high school boy but what you think is a beard is part of the suit that extends up to the neck after fusing with a demon

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  S20TEW

  8S20TEW13 hours ago

  Iv been constantly refreshing looking fo uk pre order Metroid and Zelda game and watch was up the day after announcements

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  Kid_Sickarus

  9Kid_Sickarus12 hours ago

  @johnvboy found the scalper

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  johnvboy

  10johnvboy12 hours ago

  @Kid_Sickarus,

  I would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn’t for you pesky meddling kids.

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  Axel-Bit

  11Axel-Bit12 hours ago

  I had kept my eye on the Nintendo UK store since the announcement, waiting for the edition to go live. Still managed to miss it, already gone by the time I’d realised it was available. Very disappointed as I’m not sure limited editions have ever come back into stock there

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  mantarobuster300

  12mantarobuster30012 hours ago

  Ah crap…here we go again!

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  HamatoYoshi

  13HamatoYoshi12 hours ago

  The article should read ‘scalpers set their sights on literally anything that’ll be in demand’ ……old news and the way of the world now.

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  DomGC

  14DomGC12 hours ago

  Can we please go back to no one giving a ***** about Metroid and SMT so I can actually buy…anything I would want?

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  Allspice

  15Allspice12 hours ago

  I’m glad I didn’t want the premium editions for either game (I just got the regular ones which are widely available) but I’m really sorry to those who did and missed out. As a former collector of amiibo and Funko Pops, I feel your pain. I didn’t quit collecting due solely to scalpers (I don’t need any more, same reason I stopped collecting plushies), but they do make collecting less fun.

  EDIT: Also, please don’t buy from scalpers. No matter how much you want something, it keeps them going and just isn’t worth it.

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  Anguspuss

  16Anguspuss12 hours ago

  wow Even at the original price its mehhhhhhh anyone that pays the silly prices is welcome to it

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  Zuljaras

  17Zuljaras12 hours ago

  Just don’t buy from them the reason that scalpers exist is because there are too many dumb people

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  mr_somewhere

  18mr_somewhere12 hours ago

  The market is as the market does.

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  the_weakest_link

  19the_weakest_link11 hours ago

  I know you guys are 100% against it, but could you guys maybe stop reporting on this sort of stuff so often? It’s not the sort of story that anyone is happy to see, and we all know it’s most likely happening, so you’re really just advertising the scalpers products, whether or not you’re against it. Sorry for being a nuisance, just my 5 cents worth…

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  BobbyAtomic

  20BobbyAtomic11 hours ago

  @GrailUK The way to stop it is to not buy from scalpers. If they can’t sell things at inflated prices they have to keep lowering those prices until it’s not worth it to them. At that point they return the items to break even or give up scalping altogether. That will never happen because people can’t help themselves. They will always pay those high prices so really it’s their own fault. Quit feeding the beast.

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  Ralek85

  21Ralek8511 hours ago

  I don’t think there is much to be done about buying something for the sole purpose of reselling it as that is basically how trade works, but using bots to mass-order limited quantities of end consumer products from actual retailers should be adressed by legal means.

  This has nothing to do with faciliting free trade and enterprise but creating defacto monopolies on a product to drive up the price. It’s so blatantly obvious, that tolerating it makes you wonder what the point of all this talk of free markets is all about.

  I almost wish some billionare had bought up all the vaccine in the planet and would have held the world hostage with it. At least then we would have had a common and reasonable cause to debate the merits of the Darwinian market, and would – hopefully – come to the conclusion that ultimately freedom of all is contigent on the limits placed on the individual – be it person or company.

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  Mr-Fuggles777

  22Mr-Fuggles77711 hours ago

  I only really see this problem with Nintendo products, I’ve never had any issue securing copies of limited/collector’s editions of games on any other system.

  Are they manufactured in smaller amounts to ensure they get snapped up to guarantee sales by creating an artificial scarcity – They don’t care if it’s a reseller or a collector that buys as they get paid either way.

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  IndoorHero

  23IndoorHero11 hours ago

  I can’t see there being an overwhelming demand for this so hopefully the scalpers will end up with a load of stuff they can’t sell.

  There’s currently loads of Metroid Dread Special Editions on eBay which haven’t sold and only 6 have sold presumably due to people getting carried away on the bids.

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  GrailUK

  24GrailUK11 hours ago

  @BobbyAtomic I don’t lol. Lay off!!

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  Ghost_of_Hasashi

  25Ghost_of_Hasashi11 hours ago

  That’s okay at least the standard edition isn’t affected that’s all I care about.

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  Steel76

  26Steel7611 hours ago

  I’m so glad I don’t care for this Limited edition crap.

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  Friendly

  27Friendly11 hours ago

  @GrailUK one per address. One per person. Only via pick-up at store.

  But I can see online shops not mind scalping practices though.

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  iuli

  28iuli10 hours ago

  Even if the world were more united, an anti-scalper law would still not work internationally. It would be easy for scalpers to find easy ways out with all the laws in place. The world doesn’t care anyway. Apart from the UK and a few other rich countries in Europe, which have already started proposing anti-scalper legislation, things will remain unchanged, and even there, such laws will hardly be enforced when some woman with five kids buys five copies of some rare game, etc. Good luck finding out who’s a scalper and who’s not when scalpers make a thousand accounts to buy all the units, and another thousand to sell them.

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  GrailUK

  29GrailUK10 hours ago

  @Friendly I think it needs more regulation than that. Folk will work a way around it and abuse some loophole or other. It’s a short term problem and there really ought to be something prohibiting selling something higher than retail price right off the bat. It’s exploiting the system and lacks morals, but of course, it’s not illegal so folk think it’s fine. And you are right, some outlets just see the sales and don’t care where they go. Again, there is probably some work distributers could do regarding that. It’s all so slack. Wish I had the answer, but I’m not that smart lol.

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  Friendly

  30Friendly10 hours ago

  @GrailUK it’s very difficult without regulation indeed. You also don’t want to give any monopoly to big websites and retailers only.

  In my country the special edition of Metroid is released throughout the whole week in very small quantities over a lot of different websites. There’s constantly a website where it’s available. Maybe that works short term? Dunno, I’m also not that smart

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  Kirgo

  31Kirgo10 hours ago

  Tbh. I am less annoyed about scalpers, than about the people buying from scalpers.

  At the end of day, they are the reason why scalpers exist.

  @GrailUK @Friendly

  I am not sure there is a way to prevent that kind of thing from happening by regulations either. One of the problems being that they would have to have such regulations world wide, otherwise scalpers could sell through other countries.

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  Lloydyboy

  32Lloydyboy10 hours ago

  While I understand it from a business perspective, it just takes all the joy away from making that choice to spend a little more for a special edition of a game you love. It especially sucks when it’s a case like this where some have literally been waiting years for the release.

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  ModdedInkling

  33ModdedInkling10 hours ago

  @DomGC

  Can’t wait to hear people talk about wanting Persona 5 more than Shin Megami Tensei V.

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  CactusMan

  34CactusMan10 hours ago

  @Steel76 Me too, I care mostly about playing games. I like collecting physical copies but if you can get Limited Run Golf Story only for $150 from the scalper, I gladly get it from the E-Shop for $7.50. But people seem to care enough to fund the scalper′s swindle.

  People should just let the scalper sit on his pile of limited edition games.

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  deafdood

  35deafdood10 hours ago

  I read somewhere that this actually violates eBay’s terms of service, so just report them

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  Browny

  36Browny10 hours ago

  I missed out myself, and it annoyed me that it went up in the middle of a work day with the only notice coming from Twitter (which I do not use)… but I just shrugged it off and then ordered a standard edition.

  I’ll consider it $60 saved and be happy with simply playing the game.

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  Dringo

  37Dringo10 hours ago

  @GrailUK The problem is that the entire capitalist world is built on buying stock at one price and selling it on for more

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  the8thark

  38the8thark10 hours ago

  The Limited Edition is still available in Australia. With the right connections it is still available to get at retail price.

  NintendoLife did not mention this at all (lack of research?) but I will. So if you want the Limited Edition, you can still get it.

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  Friendly

  39Friendly10 hours ago

  @Kirgo the internet. A blessing and a curse.

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  GrailUK

  40GrailUK10 hours ago

  @Dringo Very true. But how do you instill a sense of goodwill and fair play to that. Not sure you can (which doesn’t really paint a happy picture of our society lol)

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  Chibi_Manny

  41Chibi_Manny10 hours ago

  They should do what Nintendo did and make them a limited time sale and not a limited quantity sale, that way everyone has an equal opportunity to buy it while production lasts and not while supply lasts.

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  KingMike

  42KingMike9 hours ago

  Of course it wasn’t enough.

  They’re scalpers.

  They live by making things worse for others.

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  KingMike

  43KingMike9 hours ago

  @Ralek85 Are you talking about the Covid vaccine?

  There are laws about scalping necessary items, for which video game collectables do not count.

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  TheFrenchiestFry

  44TheFrenchiestFry9 hours ago

  Scalpers can suck my Mara

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  Preposterous

  45Preposterous9 hours ago

  @Mr-Fuggles777 Probably because collector’s editions are generally useless and doubly so on other platforms where games hit bargain bins and sales very quickly, so value of physical versions, let alone collectable ones, is perceived to be low by general populace. On the other hand, Nintendo products had attention of collectors for a while now and popularity of Switch ensures that there won’t be a shortage of people willing to pay extra for CEs and special editions.

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  Mr-Fuggles777

  46Mr-Fuggles7779 hours ago

  @Preposterous so why doesn’t Nintendo make more of these collections to ensure there is enough for everyone if they are so desirable?

  If they were readily available people wouldn’t be able to flip them for a profit and the gamers wouldn’t have to go without.

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  TheFrenchiestFry

  47TheFrenchiestFry9 hours ago

  @Mr-Fuggles777 It probably isn’t even up to Nintendo in regards to Japan and North America about producing more of these premium editions. It’s all Atlus/SEGA since they handle publishing duties in those regions

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  Preposterous

  48Preposterous9 hours ago

  @Mr-Fuggles777 Because they don’t care and it affects negatively only a small portion of their audience. Plus, usually it’s not on Nintendo to decide just how many of these CEs are made.

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  Mr-Fuggles777

  49Mr-Fuggles7779 hours ago

  @TheFrenchiestFry fair enough, then Sega should have made enough of the Limited edition – especially knowing how in demand this game is.

  @Preposterous then it’s always going to happen and the only winners are the company and reseller.

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  quartet1986

  50quartet19868 hours ago

  @GrailUK Pass a law where it’s not permitted to sell anything on eBay unless you have the item in hand, and you must have photographic proof that the item is ready to ship.

  That should put a dent in these gouger’s plans.

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  Whitestrider

  51Whitestrider8 hours ago

  Just Remember one thing: DON’T FEED THE SCALPERS!

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  Whitestrider

  52Whitestrider8 hours ago

  @quartet1986 lol, It just delays everything a bit…

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  GrailUK

  53GrailUK8 hours ago

  Does this sort of thing happen in Japan? Or are we just low lifes in the west lol? Didn’t Japan have a ‘not for resale’ law or something, How did that work?

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  Ralizah

  54Ralizah8 hours ago

  Scalpers aren’t going away. They’re just working within the framework provided by a capitalistic society that tells them to value profit generation above anything else.

  At this point, gaming companies should be changing their methods to address this. Why not do like LRG does and make special edition stuff an open pre-order for a period of time? That way, everyone who wants one could obtain it without having to camp out on websites and continually refresh news feeds and forums in order to snag a limited edition product in time.

  And yeah, I was on this like a hawk because I knew a special edition would disappear quickly, so I somehow managed to obtain two preorders for this version of the game. Will definitely be holding onto one for myself. The other I’ll hang onto in case a friend who wants the LE doesn’t end up being able to purchase it.

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  Entrr_username

  55Entrr_username8 hours ago

  Scalping isn’t new, but how is it getting more common?

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  MrRhysReviews

  56MrRhysReviews8 hours ago

  Man, I don’t know what it is exactly but BOTH Metroid Dread and SMT V CEs are still available here in Australia. It’s always 1 Per Customer, always restricted to the country (like it’s usually only able to be sent to local address’ and suck) and in the case of SMT V (not sure about Metroid) it’s completely Exclusive to EN Games who I know for a fact don’t ship internationally.

  I was of the thought “Sounds like a US problem” but I saw a comment or two saying it happened in the UK as well I dunno… I’m glad I’m in a country that generally doesn’t need to deal with this BS

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  johnvboy

  57johnvboy8 hours ago

  @quartet1986,

  So you are suggesting people can scalp as long as they have the item in hand, not sure E-bay will ever do anything about this, as they make a percentage from every item sold, and as for laws being passed, it possible however highly unlikely with retail items.

  A better idea would be to make bot software illegal, that way everybody has a fair chance of getting items.

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  Radbot42

  58Radbot428 hours ago

  @the_weakest_link it’s important to keep writing these articles because if we stop people may start to stop seeing it as a problem and it will be normalized. You can’t fix a problem by ignoring it. Although you can help fix this one by talking about it and teaching new people to ignore the scalpers.

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  Timptation

  59Timptation7 hours ago

  All they have to do is not sell LEs online. Then people can just go to the store in person and get what they want without having to fight bots. It works for consumers because they have a fighting chance, and it works for retailers because it gets people in the stores.

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  BloodNinja

  60BloodNinja7 hours ago

  @GrailUK Blame the people willing to pay inflated costs, they’re part of the problem. The beauty of capitalism, is that there is nobody out there that can tell you to limit how much money you want to make. That also is the same flaw of capitalism, as certain things become inaccessible for various reasons. Scalping shouldn’t be against the law, except for necessary items such as food and water, clothing. Unfortunately, housing is extremely expensive due to the mindset of the land owners. I think that’s a greater problem than a scalper hoarding a collection of rare games.

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  BloodNinja

  61BloodNinja7 hours ago

  @Timptation While I agree with your solution, that becomes a problem for people where the item isn’t offered in their region. Thanks to online stores, I’ve been able to get a fair share of Japanese imports, for example. This is more an issue of people with high amounts of income and low amounts of patience buying something at the inflated cost because money doesn’t matter to them. Scalpers wouldn’t exist if there weren’t people out there willing to pay those excessive prices.

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  invictus4000

  62invictus40007 hours ago

  There just has to be a way around this scalper problem…

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  BloodNinja

  63BloodNinja6 hours ago

  @Friendly To quote your link: “There is currently no text to display on this page.”

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  GrailUK

  64GrailUK6 hours ago

  @BloodNinja Indeed. I do appreciate there are bigger problems in the world than scalping video games, but while we are on a gaming website hee hee/

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  BloodNinja

  65BloodNinja6 hours ago

  @Radbot42 You also can’t fix problems by simply talking about them. Sure, someone with a reasonable situation may ignore scalpers, but what about those with large, disposable incomes that literally don’t care how much they spend? Heck, some people will buy the $3000 PS5 so they can gloat about it to make themselves sound like they got something fancy.

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  BloodNinja

  66BloodNinja6 hours ago

  @GrailUK Oh, absolutely. And I see the inconvenience it causes because the price point is generally pretty affordable before scalp price hikes, so it’s incredibly inconvenient to people that are more thrifty with their spending.

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  Timptation

  67Timptation6 hours ago

  @BloodNinja certainly I don’t want to do away with online sales altogether, just the limited editions. People who need to import will still need to import either way, and services exist which can help them make their “in person” purchases, if they need to. Not the ideal solution, and importers need to pay higher prices, but regional service is sort of another problem altogether. Supply and demand is the problem, and scalpers are forcing supply issues, while demand will never change. Either companies need to stop making “limited” editions, or we need to fix the scalping problem.

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  Allspice

  68Allspice5 hours ago

  @Timptation That won’t work, unfortunately. People will hurt other people to get whatever collectable they want. A stampede to get to the item, people waiting outside to mug people for them, etc.

  EDIT: https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2021/05/pokemon_trading_card_scalpers_are_causing_some_ugly_scenes_right_now

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  Itsacardgame

  69Itsacardgame5 hours ago

  I’m not so well known as to gain much traction, but I’ve started replying to publishers on their social media accounts with a possible solution.

  They should follow in Limited Run Games (and a few others) and implement open preorders for a limited time. That’s how preorders used to work. I don’t know why they’ve all forgotten this.

  The open preorder system allows for:

  1. Everybody who wants one has an opportunity to get one.

  2. Scalpers not being able to get them all.

  3. The scalping situation to be disrupted as the supply is able to meet the demand, their typical customer base is now diminished to only new fans far into the future.

  Obviously there would need to be work done with the retail partners, or for the publisher to run their own online shop (which some already do) but this also annoys the retailers. But really, knowing how many they should be making rather than playing a guessing game and failing every time should be a no-brainer.

  Is making less money and pissing off your most dedicated fanbase just to drum up hype the better solution?

  I’ve posed this to Atlus, Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft. I haven’t gotten or expect a response. Even though I’ve worked in the industry, I’m not a known individual with clout to get the ball rolling, but I have seen the inner workings and know this is a solution every publisher can implement.

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  Rika_Yoshitake

  70Rika_Yoshitake5 hours ago

  Is this 2010? did you just discover the internet…

  People been scalping Nintendo stuff for decades.

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  Dingelhopper

  71Dingelhopper5 hours ago

  Remember, when you actually buy from a scalper, you’re part of the problem. Please restrain yourself. You don’t need that collector’s edition that badly

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  Ralek85

  72Ralek855 hours ago

  @KingMike It was a hypothetical. I was just pointing towards an elephant in the room (one of many). Of course videogame CEs are not necessary goods.

  Conversely, this does not mean that non-necessary goods like these should be open to abusing the allocation mechanism, we all (implicitly) agree on. It’s the principle of the thing and has really nothing at all to do with games, other than these being consumer goods as well ?♂?

  Point being, just because you CAN leverage certain ressources, be it technology or good old mammon, to construct a monopol or oligopol shouldn’t mean you are allowed to do just that – vaccine or not.

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  Friendly

  73Friendly5 hours ago

  @BloodNinja yeah, you should fix the ) at the end of the link manually. Not sure why, but I can’t fix the link myself.

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  tabris95

  74tabris955 hours ago

  @Kid_Sickarus That also explains how he got here before anyone else lol

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  Timptation

  75Timptation5 hours ago

  @Allspice it’s worked better than this for decades.

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  Lemmy_the_Koopa

  76Lemmy_the_Koopa4 hours ago

  I had a fair chance on the Metroid Dread special edition, but ended up just getting the normal one, as I pondered that I really don’t need it. Though when I made the decision, more customers best me to it.

  Luckily I got the amiibo, so far I only have the Twillight Princess one, but this one intrigued me.

  SMT V I at least ordered the physical copy as I fear a limited run.

  This reminds me, that I might rebut Tokyo Mirage Session #FE Encore as I liked the normal version already…

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  YoshiAngemon

  77YoshiAngemon4 hours ago

  Why can’t Nintendo, or even Atlus, sell DIGITAL Special Editions, where the goods are accessed by means of exclusive apps or menu items via DLC? You know what? I hope the Nintendo Switch Successor System ends up becoming a Digital-Only thing, so we can only buy eShop Cards and so forth! That way, we can ALL get the extras we want, with a premium!

  But in all actuality, Nobody’s targeting Sonic Colors Ultimate Launch Edition! If SEGA chose to remake Sonic Generations, extending it with the 3DS Levels added, and adding characters like Classic Amy and Classic Knuckles, Tikal, Marine and Big, and including new Rival battles like Omega and Jet the Hawk, they could’ve used the idea for that Extended Edition Fanfiction, to make a fully-fledged game out of it, one that would have Scalpers targeting it. The Post-Story could involve Modern Metal Sonic and Classic Metal Sonic capturing everyone from both periods of time, and we could have playable characters like Classic Tails and Classic Knuckles for the Classic Stages, including Angel Island Zone and Flying Battery, and Shadow and Blaze for Space Colony ARK and Egg Fleet/Final Fortress, respectively. As well as new Boss Fights for Classic and Modern Metal Sonic, involving Classic Super Sonic (fighting Mecha Sonic) and Modern Super Sonic (fighting Metal Overlord), individually. And when it looks like everyone’s fading from existence, Tikal grants the Sonics the power of the Super Emeralds, as they fight a combined Metal Time Eater, with phases lifted from past games: Sonic Colors, then Sonic Adventure 2 (with Metal Knuckles and the Tails Doll), and even going back to Green Hill Zone for the Final Phase!

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  Kirbo100

  78Kirbo1004 hours ago

  Was this really a surprise? Pretty much all the Atlus special editions for SMT and Persona cost 3 times the original price. Look at P4G’s special edition.

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  Kirbo100

  79Kirbo1004 hours ago

  @YoshiAngemon Nocturne HD and P5 Strikers had digital special editions

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  Ryu_Niiyama

  80Ryu_Niiyama4 hours ago

  There is no defense for this nonsense. Scalpers are scumbuckets.

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  AlexHarford

  81AlexHarford4 hours ago

  ebay sellers can be reported for this but will probably find somewhere else to sell the items anyway: https://www.ebay.co.uk/help/policies/prohibited-restricted-items/reporting-price-gouging-ebay

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  SwitchForce

  82SwitchForce3 hours ago

  They the Retailers can stop Scalping. If they can track your Online Purchases they can track whoms buying what. We all have one Registered verified address on our CC/PayPal and other forms of payments and they can cross references since it’s all electronics. And they should not allow P.O. Box address-even then their form of Payment will give them away as that will show the Correct Address. That’s what scalpers would use as second buying address. If they are ordering multiple copies to the same address-it’s quite a Fact what’s going on. Now if it was only two but more then that then the buyer needs to verify their Online Purchases are for the same address and if so will be giving a 72 hour before all PreOrders are cancelled and their CC/PayPal are blocked until the PreOrder release date. That will put a Grinding Halt to Scalpers. If they can track our Mobile phone they surely can track your orders and find the Scalpers. And Atlus can make this a Open PreOrder until one week before the release date-that’s not hard as that will guarantee those are the Actual buyers not a BotNet. Same goes for the Metroid Dread Game/Amiibo Open PreOrder until a week before release date will KILL of Scalpers. But in the end their lack of doing so just shows they are for the $$$$$ with NO ETHIC or Morals and nothing else since only the Scalpers will profit.

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  Slothzilla

  83Slothzilla3 hours ago

  I really don’t understand why they don’t just do what most places do: take all the pre-orders and then manufacture all that was ordered. Limited Run Games even does this with their own limited editions and they are way smaller than Atlus or Nintendo.

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  SwitchForce

  84SwitchForce3 hours ago

  @Slothzilla unfortunately those companies aren’t something Nintendo can control or do about it. That’s the Elephant in the room those companies can do something about it but you have to ask would they? And even worse if they were expecting profits above MSRP from the scalpers they obviously are delusional here.

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  BloodNinja

  85BloodNinja3 hours ago

  @Timptation Fixing scalping requires solving human desire, good luck with that!

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  BloodNinja

  86BloodNinja3 hours ago

  @SwitchForce Sounds a little too rigid of a solution to simply be able to have access to a video game.

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  SwitchForce

  87SwitchForce3 hours ago

  @BloodNinja nah everything we do is Online and that’s not hard to track purchases or activities we do on the internet when you use your Registered account or make purchases Online. People are just so sheep to the slaughter they would make such comments. Nothing is rigid you sign TOS/EULA when you buy their products so what makes you think you can’t change that to stop Scalping? All they do is state clearly this is a sole purchase for sole user anything beyond this will violate the TOS and will be cancelled. Was that hard enough to understand for anyone This isn’t about access if that was true all these PreOrders would be open preorder up til the release date. But no one has explain why they won’t do that when it’s in their Best interest and bottom line as any orders they get goes to them.

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  BloodNinja

  88BloodNinja3 hours ago

  @SwitchForce I haven’t signed a single TOS in my life, and why are you talking about that when we are discussing preorders/scalping?

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  SwitchForce

  89SwitchForce3 hours ago

  @BloodNinja yes you did take NL. You had to agree to using this forum site-othewise you couldn’t register to use this. Looks like talking to a wall here but will educate anything you do online site requires registration and if your buying anything online you already signed their TOS. So once you go online to make account to buy anything you checked the box for TOS.

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  BloodNinja

  90BloodNinja3 hours ago

  @SwitchForce Where is my signature?

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  SwitchForce

  91SwitchForce3 hours ago

  @BloodNinja Yeppers clearly a Scalper is alive here and trying to weasel out. And someone that can’t connect right from left foot here.

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  BloodNinja

  92BloodNinja3 hours ago

  @SwitchForce Ok, you’re slightly insane. To the block list you go.

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  SwitchForce

  93SwitchForce3 hours ago

  @BloodNinja We have a SCalper here folks glad to block this person anyone should block them as well. Let’s ferret them out and show their true colors as not real Game Fan buyers but Scalpers.

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  Timptation

  94Timptation2 hours ago

  @BloodNinja fixing scalping requires fixing supply, or demand. I suggested fixing supply, by making it difficult to scalp, no by fixing demand.

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  BloodNinja

  95BloodNinja2 hours ago

  @Timptation Both are products of human desire. Supply arises from demand, and supply can also create demand. The source of supply is desire for money and to be able to make a good living.

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  Timptation

  96Timptation2 hours ago

  @BloodNinja Don’t even know where to begin with that… I’ll leave it to more interested parties. I’m out.

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  Dringo

  97Dringo2 hours ago

  @GrailUK Oh it’s tough. But legislating against this is going to be hard. Tickets are one thing, as that’s a set supply. And that took years and years. I think we will need other solutions

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  SwitchForce

  98SwitchForce1 hour ago

  Companies have the control to do it. It is do they have the will to do it. Others keep trying to mislead but they are the powers that be and can make the change. The fix is simple it’s do they have the balls to fix it. Anyone trying to talk about tickets is just deflecting from the real problem or is part of the problem. Tickets have limited seating that is a Fact. Games can be made over and over that is another Missed Fact. Take eShop games they can sell as many or long as they please or take it away at moments notice. And they don’t have to lower the prices. I posted a video explaining how they are the Control but people keep drinking their koolaid that it can’t happen but it does. The solutions is already in-front of them they are choosing not to use the tools they got. This is the laughable part people have been mind-zombie by companies telling them they have no control when in fact they do – they make and release the game and clearly have it in their interest to make more money. Do you think they are here to help us buying game NO. The more MSRP they sell the better and a Scalper buying at MSRP and then Scalping isn’t making more money for them other then MSRP – when Scalper can be 3x more then the MSRP and that doesn’t go to the Software maker/Developers by any stretch of the imagination here.

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  SwitchForce

  99SwitchForce1 hour ago

  Companies can say ok we have this game online for a set PreOrder timeline and after that if you missed it then you missed it and your only choices are Scalpers. But the timeline can’t be a month but up until the Release date-doing this will stop Scalpers dead in their own tracks. As if they buy too many they would be at the loosing end should all those that want got their and what left is those deciding at later time but by then those PreOrder buyers paid only MSRP to get their SE/LE/CE collection and what left is the standard or left of SE/LE/CE items of which the demand will be far below Scalpers inventory to make money. Thus this will lead to a winfall as Scalpers will have to offload at Major loss. That’s how this stops. And if there is more after the release date and no buyers well then Scalpers are free to sell at Scalping prices of which I doubt they will want to do anymore.

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  RudyC3

  100RudyC333 mins ago

  Well it’s Atlus’ fault too, their print runs tend to be VERY limited in the first place, let alone actual “limited” or so called “premium” editions.

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